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« on: January 28, 2011, 02:06:08 AM »
I just read a VERY interesting post on Websleuths written 4/26/10 by "cloudajo." The poster also sites all of his/her sources at the bottom - good idea! Good questions in here and very interesting information, plus another person who (imagine this!) expects people to be held accountable and wants to know what LE has done about it. I can feel the wheels in everyone's head turning already haha. :)

Here's the post (and the link http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86665)

Consider what was going on at the time with real estate development, these properties, big $$$ changing hands, and the chain of responsibility/accountability for security of the property and therefore, potential liability. A search of these corporations/LLCs and their filings (all public record) during those years shows a number of inter-connections between various parties, many corporations setup with the same principals, and overlapping financial interests. Note that I could not find any connections between these companies/people and CFI (where Jennifer worked).

Owner: Grand Developers Holding Corp., South Miami; principals overlap with Developer
Developer - Millenia Luxury Condominiums, LLC, Miami; principals overlap with Key Realty Advisors
Association: Mosaic at Millenia Condominium Association, Inc., Miami; Incorporator and Board of Directors principals overlap with Developer and Property Management Company
Property Management Company: KW Property Management, LLC, Coral Gables

2000-2005:
A prominent developer in central Florida (S.W., founder of Broad Street Partners) bought 100 acres near the Mall at Millenia and was developing it. S.W. was originally from South Carolina and later moved to Winter Park, FL
It appears the development project under S.W./BSP was called The Tradition, and was split into phases (I, II, III). Phase I was 451 units, Phase II was 303 multi-family units, and Phase III was 178 townhouses. These development plans were reviewed/approved by City of Orlando Municipal Planning Board
It appears the 451 apartments originally built were called Tradition Apartments and then during/after conversion into condos became known as ?Mosaic at Millenia? (where Jennifer moved into)
2004-2005:
Hearsay: According to reviews posted by former tenants, there were security issues and several robberies at ?The Tradition? apartments (later known as Mosaic at Millenia). It appears two robberies may have occurred in Jennifer?s building in 2004 that involved use of a ?master? key, which were reported to police and the Property Management Company.

Aug 2005:
Hudson Realty Capital funded a $13.4 million loan to ?Millenia Villas, LLC? to be used in conjunction with a $69.75 million loan to purchase the 451 apartments, for conversion into for-sale condos. Key Realty Advisors was identified as the exclusive ?broker?
According to the Mosaic property documents of 2005, the Developer was listed as Millenia Luxury Condominiums, LLC, and had several of the same principals as Key Realty Advisors
Mosaic at Millenia Condominium Association, Inc. was incorporated. The persons listed as Incorporator and Board of Directors overlap with Key Realty Advisors and KW Property Management. The Association was responsible to contract for the management and maintenance of the property and to authorize a management agent (which may be an affiliate of the Developer) to assist the Association in carrying out its power and duties
According to Mosaic property documents of Aug 2005, the property management company was KW Property Management, and they were responsible for negotiation of all service contracts, financial and accounting services, hiring and supervising maintenance and janitorial personnel, hiring, training, and directing any other on-site personnel or subcontractors that may be required to successfully operate the property, screening new owners/renters, updating unit owner list, etc.
The property document states the Developer had a financial interest in KW Property Management and that unit owners shall provide The Association with a set of their keys.
Speculation: KW Property was most likely also responsible for security and landscaping services.

Sep 2005:
It was announced that Pantzer Properties (connected to S.W.) sold the 451 Tradition apartments to a company called Grand Developers Holding Corp. for $75 million

Nov 2005:
Jennifer moved into her condo at Mosaic. There was extensive remodeling going on at the complex. The workers were large groups of crews that traveled together, and many were allowed to live in the empty units

Jan 24, 2006 (Tuesday):
Jennifer went missing.
Hearsay: At the time, it was said the guard gate was kept in an upright position because of all the workers coming and going at the time, there was not 24 hour security, there were no security cameras, and the fence only went around ? of the property. Two weeks after Jennifer went missing, Mosaic installed surveillance cameras and hired a new security company
Note: If the Property Management Company did hire a new security company after Jennifer went missing, were deficiencies identified in the security practices, which violated the terms set forth in the plans approved by the City of Orlando Municipal Planning Board?
Noon: POI/suspect parks and leaves Jennifer?s car at HOTG
Time? While driving to Orlando, Jennifer?s mother called the condominium complex and asked if they could send some management to check out Jennifer?s condo. Two condo managers went over to Jennifer?s. According to them, Jennifer?s car was not parked in her space. The management then entered Jennifer?s condo. The door had been locked and nothing was disturbed.
Note: If the two condo managers (employees of KW Property Management) entered Jennifer?s condo, they obviously had a key. What time were they called? How many times / when did LE question them? Were they asked to take polygraphs, and if so, did they?
Drew Kesse later said that every Tuesday, landscapers worked at the condo complex near his daughter's parking space. The landscapers said they didn't see Kesse leaving her apartment and getting into her car, which she did every weekday morning between 7:30 and 7:45 a.m.
Note: Were the landscapers hired by KW Property Management? Did they not see Jennifer or did they not see Jennifer and her car? How many landscapers were there? Were they all identified and accounted for? How many times / when did LE question them? Were they asked to take polygraphs, and if so, did they?
Rumor: It was rumored that the Mosaic work crew was made up mostly of illegal aliens. It was rumored that more than half the work crew disappeared in the days after Jennifer vanished
Note: How closely did LE scrutinize the records of the Owner, Developer, and Property Management Company, who were responsible/accountable for the workers on the property? How did they pay these workers? Were either found to have hired any illegal workers, either directly or through sub-contractors? If so, were there any consequences?

Feb 2007:
Millenia Luxury Condominiums filed a lawsuit against Hudson Capital Realty and HCR filed a lawsuit against Millenia Luxury Condominiums in May 2007 (?petition for removal ? other contract?)
May 2007:
Mile High Capital Group, which was offering Mosaic at Millenia properties, was found to have been operating a ?Ponzi scheme? from Sep 2004 through Oct 2005, and was operating under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection since Jan 2006. Principals of Mile High were later charged with multiple counts in Denver District Court for securities fraud, theft, conspiracy to commit theft, conspiracy to commit securities fraud and violation of the Colorado Organized Crime Control Act (article from May 2007)
June 2008:
S.W. (61 years old) was found dead in the backyard of his Winter Park home (later ruled suicide). He was accused of stealing $millions from investment partners; multiple lawsuits were filed against Broad Street Partners and his estate

References:
http://www.cityoforlando.net/PLANNIN...2004-00015.pdf
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH.../AllItems.aspx
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH...0Agreement.pdf
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH...lot%20Plan.pdf
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate...Tradition.html
http://www.ice.gov/pi/cornerstone/re...70131_Web1.htm
http://www.allbusiness.com/governmen.../527384-1.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/operation...4423292-1.html
http://www.corporationwiki.com/graph...px?id=15835777
http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver...14/story1.html
http://www.condometropolis.com/blog/...red-questions/
http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlan...1/daily45.html
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...treet-partners
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...r-park-letters
http://www.keyrealtyadvisors.com/
http://www.kwpropertymanagement.com/companyProfile.cfm
http://sunbiz.org/
http://www.corporationwiki.com/


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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 10:44:11 AM »
a fantastic bit of serious research

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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 11:44:23 AM »
Interesting that the developer who started the entire concept ending up killing himself.

I remember something Donald Trump said a few years ago. He was walking along the sidewalk in New York City with his daughter. He pointed to a homeless man and said, "See that fellow? He's worth $8 billion more than me."

We live in bizarre times.

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2011, 08:19:40 AM »
I just read a VERY interesting post on Websleuths written 4/26/10 by "cloudajo." The poster also sites all of his/her sources at the bottom - good idea! Good questions in here and very interesting information, plus another person who (imagine this!) expects people to be held accountable and wants to know what LE has done about it. I can feel the wheels in everyone's head turning already haha. :)

Here's the post (and the link http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86665)

Consider what was going on at the time with real estate development, these properties, big $$$ changing hands, and the chain of responsibility/accountability for security of the property and therefore, potential liability. A search of these corporations/LLCs and their filings (all public record) during those years shows a number of inter-connections between various parties, many corporations setup with the same principals, and overlapping financial interests. Note that I could not find any connections between these companies/people and CFI (where Jennifer worked).

Owner: Grand Developers Holding Corp., South Miami; principals overlap with Developer
Developer - Millenia Luxury Condominiums, LLC, Miami; principals overlap with Key Realty Advisors
Association: Mosaic at Millenia Condominium Association, Inc., Miami; Incorporator and Board of Directors principals overlap with Developer and Property Management Company
Property Management Company: KW Property Management, LLC, Coral Gables

2000-2005:
A prominent developer in central Florida (S.W., founder of Broad Street Partners) bought 100 acres near the Mall at Millenia and was developing it. S.W. was originally from South Carolina and later moved to Winter Park, FL
It appears the development project under S.W./BSP was called The Tradition, and was split into phases (I, II, III). Phase I was 451 units, Phase II was 303 multi-family units, and Phase III was 178 townhouses. These development plans were reviewed/approved by City of Orlando Municipal Planning Board
It appears the 451 apartments originally built were called Tradition Apartments and then during/after conversion into condos became known as ?Mosaic at Millenia? (where Jennifer moved into)
2004-2005:
Hearsay: According to reviews posted by former tenants, there were security issues and several robberies at ?The Tradition? apartments (later known as Mosaic at Millenia). It appears two robberies may have occurred in Jennifer?s building in 2004 that involved use of a ?master? key, which were reported to police and the Property Management Company.

Aug 2005:
Hudson Realty Capital funded a $13.4 million loan to ?Millenia Villas, LLC? to be used in conjunction with a $69.75 million loan to purchase the 451 apartments, for conversion into for-sale condos. Key Realty Advisors was identified as the exclusive ?broker?
According to the Mosaic property documents of 2005, the Developer was listed as Millenia Luxury Condominiums, LLC, and had several of the same principals as Key Realty Advisors
Mosaic at Millenia Condominium Association, Inc. was incorporated. The persons listed as Incorporator and Board of Directors overlap with Key Realty Advisors and KW Property Management. The Association was responsible to contract for the management and maintenance of the property and to authorize a management agent (which may be an affiliate of the Developer) to assist the Association in carrying out its power and duties
According to Mosaic property documents of Aug 2005, the property management company was KW Property Management, and they were responsible for negotiation of all service contracts, financial and accounting services, hiring and supervising maintenance and janitorial personnel, hiring, training, and directing any other on-site personnel or subcontractors that may be required to successfully operate the property, screening new owners/renters, updating unit owner list, etc.
The property document states the Developer had a financial interest in KW Property Management and that unit owners shall provide The Association with a set of their keys.
Speculation: KW Property was most likely also responsible for security and landscaping services.

Sep 2005:
It was announced that Pantzer Properties (connected to S.W.) sold the 451 Tradition apartments to a company called Grand Developers Holding Corp. for $75 million

Nov 2005:
Jennifer moved into her condo at Mosaic. There was extensive remodeling going on at the complex. The workers were large groups of crews that traveled together, and many were allowed to live in the empty units

Jan 24, 2006 (Tuesday):
Jennifer went missing.
Hearsay: At the time, it was said the guard gate was kept in an upright position because of all the workers coming and going at the time, there was not 24 hour security, there were no security cameras, and the fence only went around ? of the property. Two weeks after Jennifer went missing, Mosaic installed surveillance cameras and hired a new security company
Note: If the Property Management Company did hire a new security company after Jennifer went missing, were deficiencies identified in the security practices, which violated the terms set forth in the plans approved by the City of Orlando Municipal Planning Board?
Noon: POI/suspect parks and leaves Jennifer?s car at HOTG
Time? While driving to Orlando, Jennifer?s mother called the condominium complex and asked if they could send some management to check out Jennifer?s condo. Two condo managers went over to Jennifer?s. According to them, Jennifer?s car was not parked in her space. The management then entered Jennifer?s condo. The door had been locked and nothing was disturbed.
Note: If the two condo managers (employees of KW Property Management) entered Jennifer?s condo, they obviously had a key. What time were they called? How many times / when did LE question them? Were they asked to take polygraphs, and if so, did they?
Drew Kesse later said that every Tuesday, landscapers worked at the condo complex near his daughter's parking space. The landscapers said they didn't see Kesse leaving her apartment and getting into her car, which she did every weekday morning between 7:30 and 7:45 a.m.
Note: Were the landscapers hired by KW Property Management? Did they not see Jennifer or did they not see Jennifer and her car? How many landscapers were there? Were they all identified and accounted for? How many times / when did LE question them? Were they asked to take polygraphs, and if so, did they?
Rumor: It was rumored that the Mosaic work crew was made up mostly of illegal aliens. It was rumored that more than half the work crew disappeared in the days after Jennifer vanished
Note: How closely did LE scrutinize the records of the Owner, Developer, and Property Management Company, who were responsible/accountable for the workers on the property? How did they pay these workers? Were either found to have hired any illegal workers, either directly or through sub-contractors? If so, were there any consequences?

Feb 2007:
Millenia Luxury Condominiums filed a lawsuit against Hudson Capital Realty and HCR filed a lawsuit against Millenia Luxury Condominiums in May 2007 (?petition for removal ? other contract?)
May 2007:
Mile High Capital Group, which was offering Mosaic at Millenia properties, was found to have been operating a ?Ponzi scheme? from Sep 2004 through Oct 2005, and was operating under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection since Jan 2006. Principals of Mile High were later charged with multiple counts in Denver District Court for securities fraud, theft, conspiracy to commit theft, conspiracy to commit securities fraud and violation of the Colorado Organized Crime Control Act (article from May 2007)
June 2008:
S.W. (61 years old) was found dead in the backyard of his Winter Park home (later ruled suicide). He was accused of stealing $millions from investment partners; multiple lawsuits were filed against Broad Street Partners and his estate

References:
http://www.cityoforlando.net/PLANNIN...2004-00015.pdf
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH.../AllItems.aspx
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH...0Agreement.pdf
https://extranet.lindquist.com/MileH...lot%20Plan.pdf
http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate...Tradition.html
http://www.ice.gov/pi/cornerstone/re...70131_Web1.htm
http://www.allbusiness.com/governmen.../527384-1.html
http://www.allbusiness.com/operation...4423292-1.html
http://www.corporationwiki.com/graph...px?id=15835777
http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver...14/story1.html
http://www.condometropolis.com/blog/...red-questions/
http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlan...1/daily45.html
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...treet-partners
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...r-park-letters
http://www.keyrealtyadvisors.com/
http://www.kwpropertymanagement.com/companyProfile.cfm
http://sunbiz.org/
http://www.corporationwiki.com/



To get everyone started on looking into connections between Westgate and Mosaic, I am reposting a post that F_J found on Websleuths...

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 03:22:52 PM »
Thanks for the info Find-Jennifer.  Thanks also for the comments made by Sandy, Billl M, JD.

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2011, 08:45:17 PM »
How many landscapers were there? Were they all identified and accounted for? How many times / when did LE question them? Were they asked to take polygraphs, and if so, did they?
Rumor: It was rumored that the Mosaic work crew was made up mostly of illegal aliens. It was rumored that more than half the work crew disappeared in the days after Jennifer vanished
Note: How closely did LE scrutinize the records of the Owner, Developer, and Property Management Company, who were responsible/accountable for the workers on the property? How did they pay these workers? Were either found to have hired any illegal workers, either directly or through sub-contractors? If so, were there any consequences?

Sadly, the company most likely knew very little about any of the illegals who worked there and who disappeared after Jenn's abduction (either due to being part of it or due to being paid off to leave after seeing something) than the fact that they were a group of people who would get the job done for very cheap compared to usual pay standards, in half the time it would take if they hired anyone else, and also do the work of 3 men to their 1. And they are HAPPY to do so! Also without expecting any perks of employment like regular employees would such as insurance, 401k, etc. A business cuts corners by hiring illegals for 50% less than what a regular worker would DEMAND (or laugh in their face if they didnt get) and doesnt care who it puts at risk.

Then, if something criminal/illegal happens such as THIS crime of abduction, the illegals were "non existant" from the start and they can get out of town quick if needed. The amount of businesses that do this is overwhelming, even if its not what happened here......but with so much money involved, it goes back to the old saying "People who have money have it because they dont waste it"......and those are usually the companies/businesses that cut corners tax wise, pay wise, and in other ways to save MONEY, which is their ONLY interest in hiring illegals to begin with. They work harder and for cheaper and quicker. MUCH cheaper, harder and quicker might I add. I have seen too many cases of this in my own area, even within my own job(s).

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2011, 11:27:10 PM »
Once again...

OPD talks to construction company and says "Who was working on the job?"

Construction company: "Oh...um...we don't know. Some guys."

OPD: "Oh, okay."



Who paid the price for that?? JENN. She paid for it then, she's been paying for it for over five years, and it's very possible it meant the difference between life and death for her, not to mention the possibility of her ever being found. Meanwhile, the construction company owner is sound asleep on his Egyptian cotton sheets in his king sized bed in the bedroom with the view of the ocean.

The Kesses probably struggle to fall asleep every single night - sick with worry over the unknown. It amazes me how OPD and the construction company owner can sleep at night...or look their own families in the eye knowing they let this one get away and an innocent girl paid the price. Joyce and Drew have probably lost track of the number of bad days they've had because of this ignorance, how many tissue boxes and breakdowns they've had. It's amazing these people have kept it together with the circus in town...or in Mexico...who knows... This is the cost of the irresponsibility of these companies.

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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 06:59:39 PM »
When Jennifer comes home and her abductors are put away,  the manager will be sleeping on a hardened bed with a guy named bubba in a 5 by 8 jail cell!  And then Jennifer is going to be a rich women because of the things OPD did to screw this case up!

I cannot believe anybody in that complex on Jan 24 2006 can live with themselves,  weather they were involved or not!  This was a crime that the abductors should not have gotten away with,  somebody in that complex knows something..................may God hold them accountable for what they have done.  May God give the Kesse's the strength until Jennifer returns home! May God bring Jennifer home to live the life she had worked so hard for!

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 12:17:11 AM »
Amen!