Author Topic: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested  (Read 12611 times)

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« on: February 24, 2017, 10:40:46 AM »
Ryan Alexander Duke has been arrested for the murder of Tara Grinstead from Ocilla, Georgia..... From what I read online, he had been a student at her school and had gone to her home to commit a robbery........?  A very sad ending for this sweet angel whom everyone was hoping would be found alive.......  Heartfelt prayers for her, her family and friends........ She is in His more merciful hands now......... Hopefully her body will be recovered and laid to rest so the healing can begin........ 

Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2017, 03:22:16 PM »
The "rumor mill" is running full blast....there may be additonal arrest forthcoming.....I have also read that Ryan Dukes arrest is the "tip of the iceburg"....So, this is going to be interesting...

Over the years many have thought that Tara's and Jennifer's cases were connected someway.....Wouldn't it be wonderful if this arrest would bring about closure for the Kesse's and bring Jennifer home?   We can hope....

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2017, 07:58:21 PM »
I have never believed Tara and Jennifer's cases to be connected in any way, other than they were both exquisitely beautiful young and successful career women in the prime of their lives.........  It's certainly tragic that so many young, beautiful and successful women in our country end up targets for depraved underachieving lowlifes whose only claim to fame is their attempt to destroy in their victims those very qualities which they cannot attain in life for themselves.......


Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 02:25:07 PM »
I have never believed that Tara's and Jennifer's cases were connected either but stranger things have happened.....

We tend to believe that to be a victim of a crime one has to live a wild, unsafe, irresponsible lifestyle , throwing caution to the wind.....When we see a person who lives a safe , stable , responsible lifestyle going to work everyday, living the American dream with a home and family  become a victim of crime we quickly think of ourselves.... Many of us are a mere breath away from becoming a victim of crime...

Look at Tara, she was a stable, well educated person who loved her job, enjoyed helping her students,  she went to a bar b que one evening, stopped by a friend's house on the way home...The end of her life was awaiting her when she got home, her home, her safe place, her sanctuary....

And then there is Jennifer, much the same as Tara, she was  also a well educated young woman with a bright future ahead of her, she loved her job, she was living the American dream....She bought her condo only two months before her disappearance, went to work one day, came home and "poof" disappeared, never to be heard from again....

How can these things happen and remain unsolved for 11+ years?

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2017, 04:24:15 PM »
No idea.......

Find_Jennifer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1129
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2017, 01:55:31 AM »
Hey all,

So unfortunate that the outcome of Tara's case is not the happy ending we had been hoping for, but hopefully this will bring the family closure.

What's interesting about the Ryan Duke charge is that it is burglary, which is oftentimes confused with robbery, and could just mean he entered her home without permission/wouldn't leave when asked/entered with harmful intention. I had no idea this was the definition of burglary.

I was so certain it was someone Tara had been intimately involved with, so for this guy to come out of the woodwork was quite shocking. I am hopeful that Payne Lindsey will consider covering Jennifer's case in the next Up and Vanished.

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2017, 07:05:40 PM »
F_J,   
That's a great idea.......  Maybe the Kesses could ask Payne Lindsey.......  What I saw of his documentary on Tara was very well done........  I haven't watched all the episodes yet....... But I thought he was onto something in getting folks to discuss Tara's case......... Apparently getting anybody to discuss Tara's case wasn't an easy thing to do......... Perhaps this is what is needed to jump start Jenn's case again.........  I don't think anything exciting has happened since Blink's reports came out.....

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2017, 08:07:29 AM »
I have never believed that Tara's and Jennifer's cases were connected either but stranger things have happened.....

We tend to believe that to be a victim of a crime one has to live a wild, unsafe, irresponsible lifestyle , throwing caution to the wind.....When we see a person who lives a safe , stable , responsible lifestyle going to work everyday, living the American dream with a home and family  become a victim of crime we quickly think of ourselves.... Many of us are a mere breath away from becoming a victim of crime...

Look at Tara, she was a stable, well educated person who loved her job, enjoyed helping her students,  she went to a bar b que one evening, stopped by a friend's house on the way home...The end of her life was awaiting her when she got home, her home, her safe place, her sanctuary....

And then there is Jennifer, much the same as Tara, she was  also a well educated young woman with a bright future ahead of her, she loved her job, she was living the American dream....She bought her condo only two months before her disappearance, went to work one day, came home and "poof" disappeared, never to be heard from again....

How can these things happen and remain unsolved for 11+ years?

@Vivian:
I believe there is a great sickness pervading our country exacerbated by the invisibility and anonymity of the internet.......  As long as smut, porn, and images of violence against women can be accessed readily, without restriction or accountability, IMO this evil sickness will continue to happen and spread.......  I do not claim to understand this criminal mentality......... It is only through Tara Grinstead, Jennifer Kesse, Tracy Ocasio, Michelle Parker and Nicole Ganguzza that I have become aware of its very real existence in my own backyard.........  You're absolutely right, Vivian.........  We are all but one tiny misstep away from becoming victims as the criminal element seeps into our communities .......... stealing our beloved children....... and, with them, our hopes, dreams and wishes for the future........

How does it remain unsolved for 11+ years..........?  By collective choice and erroneous thinking........ Collectively, we stick our heads in the sand, refusing to acknowledge crime's existence........ we fail to act in a responsive or responsible manner at all.........  we are afraid association will spread this evil sickness to our own families ..... as though it is something we can "catch" ourselves......... or, worse still, by "tempting the hand of God" through "armchair investigation" thereby inviting it into our own homes......... We cower and choose not to get involved......

We believe the great lie: .......... That the police will solve it all by themselves ........ without help or interference from us .......... But for Payne Lindsey, Tara's case would have remained unsolved, if not for that one, all-important, crucial tip...........  And while most of us do not have critical information to share with authorities ........ we come from all backgrounds........ most certainly with different educations and experiences......... and important ideas, strengths and viewpoints that could possibly lead investigators in new directions......  Hopefully in a direct beeline to intercept that one, all-important and elusive tip.........


Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2017, 05:47:50 PM »
Society has increased and changed, has our law enforcement changed as well?....Or, are they still doing things the good old way, if it's not broken don't fix it rule?.....But it seemingly is broken, missing people's cases are going unsolved in increasing numbers for decades....When law enforcement fails on a case due to being burned out or just not giving a D___ are they being held accountable?   Are there protocols in place for the evidence that should be collected for that specific case, whether it is burlary, murder, abductions?  Is there any  accountability if those protocols are not followed?  Or , is the failure to follow these protocols just swept under the rug, ie," law enforcement takes care of their own" mentality?

There were major mistakes in Jennifer's case by the OPD, ie, condo not processed, video not released of the POI in a timely manner, many coworkers of Jennifer's have stated they were never interviewed, the two original detectives never took a single note....God knows what else they missed.....From watching criminal show's Jennifer's case is not the only one where law enforcement failed to do their job....I am pro law enforcement usually but not when it involves someone's child or God forbid one of my children ....

The two original detectives retired shortly after Jennifer went missing  was anything done due their negligence in investigating Jennifers case ?  Were they reprimanded?  Did they lose some of their retirement pay because of that negligence ?  Or, did they go their merry way and retire and get away with their negligence?......They were dealing with a human being......Not only did they fail the Kesses's , they most of all failed Jennifer, a young woman with a lifetime ahead of her....

Law enforcement is merely a tool to solve crime, more often than not people solve crimes, they depend on people to  be their eyes and ears.....Why not give the public something to work with?

When you have a case that has languished for 11 years , when you have two grief stricken parents who are exhausted from 11 years of mourning their missing daughter , not knowing if she is dead or if one day she may walk through their door? Doesn't OPD owe them something more?  Has law enforcement looked into the faces of the Kesse's , the past 11 years has taken a tremendous toll on them, you can see the anguish that they have suffered .... Is  it not time to change tactics?

If I had a daughter that has been missing for 11 years , I would think more of the OPD if they did something and it turned out to be wrong than to do nothing......

Is it necessary for the OPD to keep EVERYTHING tightly to their vest?   Is there not a chance  that if they  were to release more information that it might jog someone's memory?  Could releasing more information possibly play on a witnesses conscience perhaps?

I have written to Payne Lindsey and to Dr. Godwin who some believe brought Tara Grinsteads case to where it is today asking them to please take a look at Jennifer's case next....Would some of you also write to them and ask for their help in bringing closure for the Kesses?  One horrible day one of us may find ourselves where the Kesse's have been for the past 11 years with a missing daughter and have to listen to an inept detective say  to us "if hunters don't find your daughter this year , they will the next"!!!!!

Let's ask Payne Lindsey and Dr. Maurice  Godwin for their help in solving Jennifer's case....

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2017, 10:24:45 AM »
There is much still to do........ Jenn's car and the dirt we viewed on it in the photos on her site contain a wealth of information....... From the vegetation caught in the undercarriage ........ To the diatoms and pollen within the dirt samples........  These are all roadmaps leading us to Jenn........  This is the time for OPD to make up for their initial mistakes........  This is the time for experts and science......  UCF is one of the largest schools in the country......... Right here in Orlando........!!!! AND is Jenn's own alma mater..........!!!!!  Certainly someone from her own university can help the Kesses and OPD decipher these important clues........?   If I had the training, I would do it myself...........  Unfortunately, that is not the case........

This is not JUST dirt on her car..........!!!  Just watch Forensic Files if you doubt this........  Every speck is a possible clue that, in the hands of experts, can tell us where Jenn's car was before it was dropped off..........

Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2017, 12:15:07 PM »
As the years go by I am thinking more and more that there is more to Jennifer's disappearance than meets the eye.....Cover ups by OPD involving people with money at Westgate.....You know what they say, "money talks".....How many in law enforcement have had "favors" done for them by some employees at Westgate.....Was Jennifer on the verge of discovering some of these  schemes OR had she already discovered something amiss at CFI/Westgate......I will always believe that she may have been going to present something pertaining to this at the meeting she was to attend that Tuesday....Perhaps a coworker would have been implicated in these underhanded dealings.....

I agree with you J4J , Jennifer's case did not get the attention that it deserved in the first few hours of her disappearance.....If OPD would not even process her condo , what else did they not do.....I have always believed that her car was taken off road onto dirt roads.....

If I were younger I would definitely have a Bloodhound and spend time in wooded areas searching for this young woman...I want to believe that there are people doing that in Orlando for Jennifer.....She deserved no less than a "perfect investigation" and DID NOT GET IT!!!   Will one of our daughters be next?  Will we one day be where the Kesse's have been for the past 11 years dealing with an inept , negligent police department?   

It is frightening to think that the two original detectives in Jennifer's case were not held accountable in the mistakes that they made......

Every speck on her car held a possible clue, her condo possibly held a clue, coworkers that were never interviewed possibly held a clue.....Has the DA in Orlando ever presented Jennifer's case to the grand jury ?  Why not?

Find_Jennifer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1129
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2017, 02:42:31 AM »
What's becoming truly scary with Tara Grinstead's story is the number of people who seem to have known what happened to Tara after all these years, as well as the number of tips that were called into the authorities or searches that were conducted that were so close to finding Tara, but just not close enough.

Drew and Joyce often say they know more than one person knows what happened to Jennifer. I always wonder how they know this for fact...is it just an educated assumption? A likely assumption?

If you have information about Jennifer's disappearance, please know that Drew has publicly said he no longer cares about who, where, why, when, how. He just wants his daughter back. Mail an anonymous letter to OPD with Jennifer's location if you're too scared to come forward. If you have tried to provide a tip and LE is not listening to you, post the tip on the guest book if you have to.

Jenn was just 24 years old when she disappeared, which at the time seemed like a grownup age, but now 24 seems so young - like adult infancy.

Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2017, 01:58:04 PM »
What kind of a human being would remain quiet all of these years who knew what happened to Tara?   They had to have known that her family and friends were suffering wondering all of those years if she could possibly still be alive or not.....Everyone of the people who had knowledge of Tara's death and the location of her remains should serve prison time....Disgusting human beings....

J4J

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2017, 09:14:07 AM »
Despicable people without a doubt ........  What is so strange about Jennifer's case is that folks DID call in to Crimeline to offer tips ........ And absolutely nothing was done about those tips .......!!!  No follow up .......... Nothing .........  NADA ...........!!! Our tax dollars, hard at work........?  Of what use, then, is the Crimeline ...........?  How can this have happened .........?  I always wondered about the comment on BOC by Liz ..........  Now we know ..........  She said Jenn came into her place of business .......... Stated she tried to help her ..........  And that she had called it in to Crimeline ...........  This is the first time we learn what that meeting was all about ........TEN LONG AGONIZING YEARS for Jenn's family after the fact .........?  And that there was MORE ........ MUCH more ........!!!   A young woman, crying for help, forced into a dark car the very night Jenn goes missing ...........?  I don't get it ........!!!!  What does it take to get OPD to actually DO something ........?  They should have been swarming all over Northbridge ..........!!!  Am I the only one who feels like I've slipped down the rabbit hole into the twilight zone and am living in an alternate universe all at the same time .........? 


Vivian

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 36
    • View Profile
Re: Tara Grinstead Murder Suspect Arrested
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2017, 10:20:06 AM »
Any of us could be a heartbeat from being right where the Kesse's have been for 11 years....

Law enforcement nationwide should be held accountable for their mistakes and should have to meet standards of investigative practices....Their negligence costs people their lives and it is wrong for them just to continue on and on doing things the same old way without repercussions to their inaction....

I think when a tip is called in to any law enforcement agency that that person should get a followup call about that tip ....If the OPD had enlisted the publics help and been more forthcoming with information about Jennifer's disappearance the outcome could have been different...