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General Discussion / Unconcluded - 12th Episode
« on: October 16, 2017, 01:00:48 AM »
Hey all,

I'm just jotting down notes as I listen to the 12th episode and hope we can discuss the information that is revealed!

Oh man - Drew talking about wanting to get the locks changed for Jennifer and it didn't get done because she wanted to finish getting settled in. :( He also said he picked the condo. :( It's obviously not Drew's fault in the slightest, but understandable that this would be difficult for him to live with in the aftermath. So sad.

One thought I did have - Drew mentions several people had keys to her condo. He confirms he had one as did Rob. Logan would have had one for the weekend. I always wondered if one of the guys who stayed at the condo over the weekend had the chance to make their own copy.

Drew discovered there was a pedophile living in the apartment next to Jennifer's. The pedophile has since passed away after moving to Texas.

Someone knocked on Jennifer's door Monday night, January 23, but she didn't answer. She believed it was her upstairs neighbor.

A resident who lived at Jennifer's complex in the spring of 2006 reported hearing someone trying to use a key to enter their unit.

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General Discussion / POI Going Back to Mosaic
« on: June 28, 2017, 03:17:57 AM »
It just occurred to me...there are a couple things that can be determined based on the fact that Bo tracked POI's scent from HOG to the bottom of the stairwell at Jenn's condo...

POI is not just someone who was paid to drop off a car. He knew were she lived and he had a purpose for going back to Mosaic. That means either:

1. He was a construction worker who was going back to work or to get his stuff out of one of the condos and get out of there.

2. He had some kind of business that needed to be done at Jenn's condo. Maybe he needed her briefcase, he had to clean up evidence, or he was staging the condo to make it look like Jenn got ready for work that morning. (The fact that POI was tracked backed to Mosaic really does add some credibility to the possibility of a staging. If he bothered to stage the car at HOG, why wouldn't he bother to stage the apartment?) He might have even been the one to take a shower.

He would have had her keys, he wouldn't have raised any suspicions of people on the property since there were so many workers. He went to Mosaic for a reason and if he wasn't a construction worker then we know he was doing something in Jenn's condo.

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General Discussion / Happy Birthday, Jennifer
« on: May 20, 2017, 02:40:36 AM »
Happy Birthday, sweet Jenn.

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General Discussion / 11 Years
« on: January 26, 2017, 02:52:46 AM »
Not a day goes by that I don't think about Jenn and the Kesses. Always hoping for a miracle. xoxo

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General Discussion / Crime Watch Daily Piece
« on: March 26, 2016, 07:36:03 PM »
Hey guys,

Crime Watch Daily did a piece about Jenn this past week. If you haven't seen it yet, you can check it out here:
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/03/21/cold-case-jennifer-kesse-disappears-steps-from-orlando-home/

A few comments I wanted to make on this:

1. WHY would Orlando PD decline an interview about this? Jenn's case is probably averaging 1-2 opportunities a year to reach a national audience (and in some cases international) through shows such as this. It's a golden opportunity to keep her face and story going. I could understand turning down an interview if they were asking for interviews every week, but that's not the case after 10 years. I'm really disappointed in this and I can only hope the reason they declined an interview is because they're working on a new lead, and by doing an interview, it could compromise the investigation.

2. Viewers have the chance to see POI at a new angle...HEAD ON. (Maybe it's been out there in the public before, but I've never seen it after my 7 years studying this case.) While you can't identify POI by his face because the footage is too grainy, you can get a better idea of what his body looked like. I think he's actually quite chubby. I always thought he was very muscular and fit (like perhaps military) based on the photos we've seen of his arms from the side, but when you look at his chest and stomach, he seems much more round in figure.

3. Drew says that while Rob has been interviewed/polygraphed by police time and time again, LE is not interviewing people those close to Jenn believe need a second look. Also worth noting is that Jenn's ex who was drunk in the bar near her condo the night of/before her abduction is maybe still pretty high on the list of suspects according to those closest to Jenn.

Thanks to Crime Watch Daily for featuring Jenn's story!

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General Discussion / 10 Years
« on: January 23, 2016, 12:15:45 AM »
I cannot believe we are almost to 10 years. Absolutely cannot believe it. I think I've been following Jennifer's case for 7 years and I thought for sure it not only could be, but would be, solved by now. So unfair. When I think about the 10 year marker approaching, I'm just honestly stunned, and all I can do is shake my head. Someone got away with this for 10 years. Someone probably watched the Kesses plead over and over and OVER again for answers. All they want is to bring Jennifer home and that person doesn't even have the decency to give them that after everything else they've taken from this family?!? Disgusting. I will always be supporting Jennifer and the Kesses, as long as it takes to bring her home. But it's well beyond time. RIGHT NOW. God bless Jennifer and her loved ones.

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General Discussion / Obama's Executive Order re: Immigration
« on: November 29, 2014, 07:50:51 PM »
Do you think it could help solve missing person cases, including Jen's?

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General Discussion / Florida Secession?
« on: October 23, 2014, 02:13:58 PM »
It would have to pass a state vote and get approval from Congress, but lawmakers in southern Florida are supporting a secession to split the state in half: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/south-florida-secession-new-state/index.html?sr=fb102314floridaseceding2pStoryPhoto

I wonder if this would have any effect on Jennifer's case?? For better or worse? Orlando would be considered part of the "new sate," so what would happen if a tip came in from the old state and required investigation? Then you run into jurisdiction and differences between state laws. I can't decide if that would be for the better or worse. I wonder how the Kesses feel about this.

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General Discussion / Somebody knows?
« on: October 11, 2014, 03:01:48 AM »
In almost every missing person case I've ever read about, people are always quoted as saying "Somebody knows what happened. They just need to come forward." Excluding the victim and the actual offender, what if that's not true? What if nobody knows? Does this theory come from actual evidence to suggest multiple parties were involved in the abduction of Jennifer and/or these other victims? Or is that just an educated guess? Because I'm thinking if somebody acted alone, they aren't likely to brag about what they've done because then somebody WOULD know and somebody would rat them out.

I'm just curious what others might think about this. I have always had a gut feeling that the right tip has been called in but was either overlooked or there just isn't the evidence to convict right now. As to whether or not there was more than one person involved in Jennifer's abduction, I do not know. It seems like there's a good possibility in her case. I have heard the Kesses say many times that they know somebody knows something and I'm curious how sure they are about this.

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General Discussion / Military Theory...
« on: May 08, 2014, 12:50:56 AM »
The idea that POI is/was in the military based on stance and walk has been suggested several times on here. This article has some interesting information on collecting DNA and fingerprints from military personnel. In 1998, two-thirds of active duty and reserve members had DNA and fingerprints on file. By 2000, ALL service members had DNA cards on record.

HOWEVER, that information is NOT connected to the national database when looking for a match for criminal cases. A court order is required to obtain the release of the member's DNA. So in theory, if POI served in the armed forces, his DNA and fingerprints should be on file, but you would need a name to proceed with requesting a court order. Also worth noting -- many of the fingerprints end up damaged!

This information could be outdated as the news release is from 1998, but I haven't found anything contradictory yet. Just thought I'd share.

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=41418

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General Discussion / Days away...
« on: January 22, 2014, 01:07:35 AM »
...from marking another year of Jennifer's disappearance. I absolutely can't believe it has been almost 8 years. What a nightmare for her and her family. There have been many pleas in those eight years, but the right information that connects all the dots and brings Jennifer home has yet to be shared.

Thinking about and praying for Jennifer and her family always, but especially during this time.

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General Discussion / The least you could do...
« on: September 06, 2013, 03:23:24 AM »
The least you could do is send a note somewhere to let people know where Jennifer is. Really you're lucky because Drew Kesse has gone on the record to say they don't care who did this or why...they are simply trying to bring Jennifer home. I agree with them on this -- I don't care who you are or why you did it either. I would just like to see Jennifer returned home where she belongs. There was a time when I would have liked to see your head on a platter, but nothing on this Earth will compare to the wrath of God. He promises vengeance.

It's been 7.5 years... How do you live with yourself every day? Do you sleep well? Can't imagine what your feelings are about your judgment day. Perhaps God will show you some mercy if you just make it known where she can be found. If for nobody else, do it for yourself and relieve some of that anxiety and guilt you may be feeling.

Over and over and over the Kesses have said "Do the right thing...it's time, it's time right now." All you need to do is write a note...send it to OPD, a church, a lawyer...wherever. Write it on a public bathroom wall. Hell, use a public library computer and post it on this guest book. I would imagine there are times that you are sorry for what you've done...maybe you are sorry every day...maybe you regret it. This is one way you can make amends...it will take very little effort on your part, but it would be the world to Jenn's family.

Please let someone know where Jennifer is. She needs to come home for better or worse. It's bad enough she's been taken from her life the past 7.5 years...at least let her go home and give this case a resolution. You will be a better person and you will feel better if you bring her home. Thank you.

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General Discussion / William on the Guest Book
« on: April 04, 2013, 11:18:54 PM »
To William on the guest book:

You have some of the facts between the Tara Grinstead case and Jennifer's case confused. Interesting points, though, suggesting a male/female partnering involved for either case. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Tara was the beauty queen with the glove found in the yard.

Jennifer was a financial analyst for a timeshare company. The person on the surveillance video pertains to her case and interesting to think of a female in male clothing. I've always wondered why police couldn't say for certain it was a man or a woman. To me it seemed obvious it was a man. But...you have made an interesting point.

Jealousy could have played a role in either case.

Thanks again.

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General Discussion / Another Search Coming Up
« on: November 30, 2012, 05:53:48 PM »
Happy to see Jennifer's case staying in the media, even if it's not as often. There's another search coming up...I wonder if this means they have something credible?? I would think it must...

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-11-26/news/os-beth-kassab-missing-man-found-112712-20121126_1_leigh-abel-ground-search-drew-kesse

If it has to be the worst case scenario, please please PLEASE let this be the time they find her.

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General Discussion / Poke Holes in this Theory
« on: November 28, 2012, 10:04:03 PM »
This scenario was drafted by someone with Orlando connections who studied criminal justice. I can't poke holes in it. See if you can.

Theory: Trafficking

How: They watched her routine, her comings and goings, her social activity, her business activity. Workers at Mosaic used the accessible keys/stolen master/made their own key and went into Jennifer's condo while she was at work prior to her abduction to determine her typical routines: where she leaves her clothes, her towels, her makeup, if she eats breakfast in the morning, makes coffee, etc... The night Jenn returned, either someone was inside the condo keeping quiet until she went to sleep or someone used a key to let themselves in after the lights went out. It fits that they were watching the lights go out at 10:00 and by 10:30 could have her cell phone pinging away from her condo... They knock Jennifer out instantly, probably with chloroform - no fight, screaming or struggle - there was no time. They take her out of the condo maybe in a blanket, rolled up carpet or rug and most likely put her in their own vehicle. They take her wallet to get the photo from her driver's license to assist in making fake identification/passports for her. They take items of value to sell: her past/present/future necklace, her ipod... They take her briefcase for two reasons - they're going to set it up to make it look like she went to work the next morning. They're also going to sift through the briefcase for any valuable information that will help get her out of the country easily OR give them information to benefit financially. They take her snakeskin pumps because they are going to dress her up to sell her. "They're not going to sell her looking like crap" as my friend said. There were probably a couple of outfits missing from her closet, too, but that would have been harder to notice unless it was a favorite. They stage her condo to make it look like everything was normal and she went to work...putting clothes on the bed (they already knew this was her typical behavior because they've been in the condo before)...putting out her makeup, running the shower, putting the towels on the washer. They may have even showered themselves off in her shower if there was any blood involved.

As a diversion, someone takes Jenn's cell phone away from the condo to make it look like she went out when she did not. Taking the car was also a diversion. Where are you going to look if you find something belonging to a missing person? You're going to focus your attention in that area, of course. They knew exactly what they were doing. Meanwhile they were getting her out of the country to sell her. She's worth too much money to kill or come forward for a million dollar reward. If she's survived this long she is probably a drug addict and blitzed out of her mind. May not know who she is or even be recognizable...living and working for drugs and that's it. Confined to a room with other women who have been trafficked with limited and controlled public interaction.



Thoughts?

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